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#1 buffy

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:27

Nu är det dags igen. Ni kan anmäla era lag genom att maila mig på ddynefors@hotmail.com så snart ni kan. Listorna ska vara inne senaste den 15 oktober och jag vill ha alla listor i samma mail och jag vill inte ha listor gjorde i armybuilder eller liknade program. Ni kan anmäla era lag senast den 10 oktober.

 

Turnering är 31 oktober till andra november.

 

Ni kan föranmäla er till konventet på http://bsk.sverok.net/wordpress/

 

Tider

 

Fredag

Samling 18,30

match 1: 19,00-22,15

Lördag

Match 2: 09,00-12,15

Match 3: 13,15-16,30

Match 4: 17,00-20,15

Fest hos mig 22,00 - 04,00

Söndag

Match 5: 09,30 - 12,45

Prisutdelning runt 13,15

 

Regler

 

BSK är en lagturnering där upp till fyra personer måste spela samtidigt. Man kan ha fler än 4 personer i laget men då måste man turas om vilka som ska spela. Varje lag har fyra arméer och alla arméer måste vara från olika raser.

 

I år kommer varje lag max kunna få 55BP per match istället för 60BP som det har varit tidigare år. Jag gör dessa ändringar så inget lag drar iväg för mycket.

 

Jag hoppas detta är rätt draft men om inte säg gärna till :)

 

1. Rule changes

• Up to 2 Characters per unit can get "look out sir" against the following spells: Dwellers Below, Final Transmutation and Dreaded 13th. Normal requirements for Look Out, Sir! apply.
• BSBs can take all the equipment their unit type has access to as if they weren't BSBs. Wood Elf BSB can take kindreds and do not lose their longbow.

2. Magic Restrictions

• An army may use up to maximum 12 power dice during each magic phase
• A player can never use more than 5 power dice to cast a spell, no matter the source. For the Lore of Death and the Okkam's Mindrazor spell, this is lowered to 4 power dice.
• Apart from Winds of Magic, an army may only generate up to 2 additional Power or Dispel Dice per magic phase (including channelling). Any extra dice above this is discarded and lost.

3. Team restrictions

• A team consists of 4 armies, each of which with an army from a different army list
• A team may not contain more than 1 armies with 3 or more Lore of Death spells. Beastmen and Tomb Kings do not count towards this limit.

4. Army Building Restrictions

• All the Army building restrictions are applied only during the creation of the roster, and may be ignored during the game (for example, by joining characters to units or creating new units)
• The army lists allowed are those from any of the currently published GW Army Books, and The Legion of Azgorh from Tamurkhan. No other unit or army list may be used on the event.
• Special or Named Characters are not allowed
• Fozzrik’s Folding Fortress may not be taken.
• Units cannot be more than 60 models nor 450 points. This does not apply to characters.
• All army sizes are 2400 pt, except when specifically stated in brackets.

Beastmen (2700)

• Maximum unit point cost is increased to 550
• Victory points achieved against Beastmen are decreased by 10%
• May generate up to 3 Power Dice
• Gor and Minotaur units may carry magic standards (max 50 points)

Bretonnia (2500)

Chaos Dwarfs (The Legion of Azgorh)

• K'daai Destroyer/War Machine/Hellcannon (max 1)/Chalice of Blood and Darkness, max 4
• Chalice of Blood and Darkness (counts as 2)/Death magic in the army/Dispel Scroll, max 2
• Ashstorm can’t be cast with more than 4 Power Dice

Daemons of Chaos

• Beast of Nurgle, max 7 models in total and 4 models per unit
• 4 or more Beast of Nurgle models in the army/Skull Cannon (max 1)/1st Nurgle Herald/Great Unclean One with Lore of Death, max 2

Dark Elves

• Reaper Bolt Thrower/Each 5 (or fraction) shade models/Dark Rider with Repeater Crossbow units/Darkshard units, max 7
• Dark Rider units, Characters on Dark Steed, max 3 each
• Dark Rider models after 15/Doomfire Warlock models/Character on Cold One or Pegasus/Character on Dark Steed (counts as 2), max 15
• 6 or more Doomfire Warlock models/mounted Supreme Sorceress with Lore of Death or Dark Magic/Sacrificial Dagger, max 1

Dwarfs

• Cannon/Grudge Thrower/Organ Gun/Flame Cannon/Each 2 (or fraction) Gyrocopter after 3, max 4

Empire

• Steam Tank/One or more duplicated war machines/Each 5 (or fraction) Demigryph models/War Altar and 2 or more Light Wizards in the army, max 3
• Great Cannon (max 2 if Steam Tank in the army)/Steam Tank (max 1)/Hellblaster Volleygun/Each Light Wizard after the first in an army with War Altar, max 4

High Elves

• Book of Hoeth/Banner of the World Dragon/Unmounted Frostheart Phoenix, max 2
• Frostheart Phoenix/Star Dragon/Moon Dragon, max 2
• Archmage with Lore of Shadow or Death cannot use Book of Hoeth
• Eagle Claw Bolt Thrower/Each 8 (or fraction) Shadow Warrior or Sister of Averlon models/Archer units, max 7
• Ellyrian Reaver units, max 3

Lizardmen

• Skink Skirmisher units (max 4)/Skink Cohort unit/Flying, non-Frenzied, units or characters/Salamander models, max 14

Ogre Kingdoms

• Gnoblar units, max 3
• Crown of Command (counts as 2)/Runemaw/4 or more Characters/6 or more Mournfang models, max 3
• 2nd Ironblaster (counts as 2)/Lords present in the army/4 or more Mournfang models, max 2
• Hellheart/Dispel Scroll, max 1

Orcs and Goblins (2500)

Skaven

• Rat Swarm units, Giant Rat units, Warlock Engineers, max 3 each
• Skaven Slave models, max 120
• Gutter Runners max 20 models
• 2nd Warp Lightning Cannon (counts as 2)/Screaming Bell/Hellpit Abomination (max 1), max 2
• Doom Rocket/Brass Orb/Power Scroll/Screaming Bell, max 2

Tomb Kings (2700)

• Maximum unit point cost is increased to 550
• Victory points achieved against Tomb Kings are decreased by 10%
• May generate up to 3 Power Dice
• Skeleton Archer models, max 80
• Neferra's Scrolls of Mighty Incantations can't be taken by model with Lore of Death

Vampire Counts

• Zombies, max 3 units and 120 models
• Ethereal Characters (max 2)/Ethereal units, max 3
• 2nd Crypt Horror unit/11 or more Hexwraith models (max 20)/3 or more Death spells in the army/Quickblood (only if combined with Red Fury), max 1
• Terrorgheist (max 1)/9 or more Crypt Horror models (max 16)/one or more Banshees/Red Fury, max 2

Warriors of Chaos

• Exalted Hero on Daemonic Mount/Daemon Prince/one or more Core Chaos Chariots (max 3)/Skullcrusher unit, max 4
• Daemon Prince/Chimera, max 2
• 2nd Hellcannon/Lore of Death and/or Tzeentch in the army, max 1
• Third Eye of Tzeentch/Talisman of Preservation/Armour of Destiny, max 1 on the same model
• Chaos Armour/Soul Feeder/Dragonhelm/Dragonbane Gem/3 or more Wizard levels/Daemon of Nurgle/Flying/Lore of Death or Nurgle, max 3 on the same Daemon Prince

Wood Elves

• Non character model with Asrai longbow, max 90
• Hagbane tips/Trueflight arrows/Waywatchers(counts as 2)/Waystalker (counts as 5), max 60
• Lore of death on spellweaver/moonstone of the hidden ways/3 or more Waystalkers, max 1
• 8 or more Sisters of the Thorn in the same unit/Spellweaver on Elven Steed with Death or Dark magic, max 1
• Forests placed by wood elf player can be magical

 

Här är en link till etc faq: https://docs.google....UU6RkMI1hDQ/pub

 

Här kommer en till till worst play: https://docs.google....BjG0iw1s-RneOt8

 

 

Line of Sight
Terrain pieces are divided into ones that:
- Block LoS: Hills, Buildings and impassable terrain.
- Don't block LoS: all other terrain.

Unit is considered to be in hard cover when:
- Majority of unit's footprint is obscured from shooter's Line of Sight by one or more Interfering Unit(s) or LOS blocking terrain(s), as described on page 41 BRB
- Majority of unit's front rank is defending an obstacle, as described on page 122 BRB and ETC FAQ 8.4. If the unit is being shot from the flank or the rear, treat the corresponding file or the last rank, respectively, as the front rank
- Majority of unit's footprint is in Ruins

Unit is considered to be in soft cover when:
- Majority of unit's footprint is in or behind woods, as described on page 119 BRB

Elevated position

- Models shooting from hills don't get the hard cover penalty for shooting through interfering units, unless interfering the unit is also on hill.
- Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being shot at through interfering units, unless that part of the units which interferes is also on hill.
- Units with majority of its models on hill do not receive hard cover for being partially obscured from the shooter's LoS by the same hill they are on

Large targets
- Large targets can't claim cover for obstacles, ruins and interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target.
- Large Targets which shoot don't suffer any penalties for interfering units, unless interfering unit is also a Large Target.
 

 

 

Rules for Terrain
Hills
As per BRB description of an ordinary hill (p. 118 first 5 paragraphs, i.e. without the “Examples of hills” subsection) with following additional rules:
- Line of Sight: Hills block Line of Sight.

Forests
As per BRB description of an ordinary forest (p. 119 first 6 paragraphs, i.e. without “Mysterious Forests” subsection) with following additional rules:
- Line of Sight: Forests are Interfering terrain providing Soft Cover for units, as described in BRB.
- For Line of Sight purposes Forests count as being of infinite height. This implies that units shooting trough forest will always suffer Soft Cover penalty, even if shooting from a hill.

Lake
As per BRB description of a Normal River (p. 120 first 5 paragraphs, i.e. without “Mysterious Rivers” subsection) with following additional rules:
- Line of Sight: Lakes are non-interfering terrain features.
- Lakes are Water Features.

Obstacle: Wall
As per BRB description of an ordinary Wall (p. 123 with common rules for Obstacles,p.122) with following additional rules:
- Wall's definition of a unit “behind” is applied only to units actually defending the obstacle (i.e.aligned with it and touching it).
- Line of Sight: Obstacles are non-interfering terrain features.

Ruins
As per BRB description of an ordinary marshland (p.121 first 3 paragraphs, i.e. without “Examples of Marshland” subsection) with following additional rules:
- Ruins are NOT Water Features.
- Line of Sight: Ruins are non-interfering terrain features, providing Hard Cover for units with majority of their footprint in the feature.

Impassable
As the title says
- Infinite height

Buildings
Buildings are IMPASSABLE TERRAIN, which counts as being of infinite height (as per ETC 2014 captain’s vote)

 

Matchup process:

Team 1: A B C D
Team 2: E F G H

Team 1 puts down A (hidden)
Team 2 puts down E (hidden)

Both armies are then shown at the same time.

Team 1 then puts down B and C against E (hidden)
Team 2 then puts down F and G against A (hidden)

Armies are then shown at the same time.

Then the teams select which matchup they want (i.e, team 1 chooses F against A), and the army that are still left in their hand (D) is paired against the other (G)

 

Panting:

All modells in the army most be painted. The classic rule of 3 collors or more should be on most modells but for some like dryads 3 collars can be to much so it depend alot on what kind of modells you are using.

 

All bases need to be painted or coverd with something like grass or sand for exemple.


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#2 AlFiKa

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:36

Ser bra ut,

Har du gjort någon mer ändring än följande? :

 

3. Team restrictions

• A team consists of 8 players, each of which with an army from a different army list
• A team may not contain more than 1 armies with 3 or less Lore of Death spells. Beastmen and Tomb Kings do not count towards this limit.

 

Och borde det inte vara 4 manna lag?


LoS och terrängregler finns här:
https://docs.google....HJSakdBd0k/edit


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#3 Katarsis

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:40

Det där är väl inte de senaste restriktionerna? T.ex. Wood Elves är ju inte uppdaterade med senaste boken. 



#4 fjugin

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:40

Du har klippt in wood elf restriktionerna för gamla boken, här är dom för nya WE boken:

Wood elves
• Non character model with Asrai longbow, max 90
• Hagbane tips/Trueflight arrows/Waywatchers(counts as 2)/Waystalker (counts as 5), max 60
• Lore of death on spellweaver/moonstone of the hidden ways/3 or more Waystalkers, max 1
• 8 or more Sisters of the Thorn in the same unit/Spellweaver on Elven Steed with Death or Dark magic, max 1
• Forests placed by wood elf player can be magical

 

(du kan då också stryka det om wood elf BSBn i allmänna restriktionerna då den inte gäller med nya boken)

 

 

LOS och terräng regler: http://etc-events.co...govane mape.pdf

Kommer det ETC borden användas?


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#5 Dennis P

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:41

tror we blir ganska bra med dessa restriktioner :)

 

ninjad av erik ser jag nu


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#6 Katarsis

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:43

• A team may not contain more than 1 armies with 3 or less Lore of Death spells. Beastmen and Tomb Kings do not count towards this limit.

Wut? Man måste alltså spela med minst 3 lvl4 Death i laget.

 

Edit: 2 lvl2 etc går ju också bra. 



#7 buffy

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:57

Är det vara WE som är fel eller andra raser med?

 

Jag vet ett Norskt lag som har sagt om de ska komma men jag har inga kontakter men norska eller danska spelare annars.

 

Jag ska se om jag kan fixa ETC borden men eftersom vi måste låna terräng kan jag inte garantera något för det beror på när terrängen kan vara hos oss.


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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 11:58

Vilket datum är turneringen? :S

Jag kan se om jag kan få tag på lite norrmän!


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#9 Mike Boll

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 12:25

 

• A team may not contain more than 1 armies with 3 or less Lore of Death spells. Beastmen and Tomb Kings do not count towards this limit.

Wut? Man måste alltså spela med minst 3 lvl4 Death i laget.

 

Edit: 2 lvl2 etc går ju också bra. 

 

Haha älskar denna restriktion behåll den!!!! :P


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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 12:37

Vilket datum är turneringen? :S

Jag kan se om jag kan få tag på lite norrmän!

And the Norwegians have been informed. I expect us to send a few teams ;) 

 

Couple questions: do buildings count as buildings and not impassable? What kind of maps are used? How are these related to the pairing? Do we have to do anything on the link you had in the OP (http://bsk.sverok.net/wordpress/) or is it sufficient to mail you? Is there a limit on teams? If yes, how many?



#11 Herminard

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 12:38

Vi hör er. Åt minstonde ett Norsk lag kommer, och med bra spelare. Vi kollar om vi får över några fler också, ser bra ut ock mycket at få med sej från söta bror.

 

(Ursekt mitt svorska)

 

Edit:

 

:) 

 

-H-



#12 vizier87

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 12:58

Det kommer i alle fall 2 lag fra Norge (Oslo) som jeg vet om

 

Herminard: Stiller dere lag fra Bergen eller?



#13 Herminard

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 13:56

Jobber med saken! Meg, Hallvard, Kyrre og Kristoffer eller Truls? Artig lag det vel? Tar med sverd og drikkehorn!

 

 

 

..neida..

 

Hvis vi får med oss et lag så skal vi selvsagt spille turneringen in-spirit og gi tight fights hele veien. Ser at vi bommet til SM på dette. Ingen grunn til gjentakelse.

 

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 16:14

Couple questions: do buildings count as buildings and not impassable? What kind of maps are used? How are these related to the pairing? Do we have to do anything on the link you had in the OP (http://bsk.sverok.net/wordpress/) or is it sufficient to mail you? Is there a limit on teams? If yes, how many?

 

On that link you can pay for the tourmant. You can pay at the site to but then is will me more expensice and we only take cash at the tournament.

 

I will try to use the ETC maps but since I need to borrow terrian I can´t promise that.

 

It´s no team limit.


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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 21:36

En undring, målningskrav? målningspoäng? osv




#16 buffy

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Postad 19 augusti 2014 - 23:14

Det är målningskrav men inga målningspoäng. Ska lägga in det i infon senare.


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#17 Olannon

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Postad 20 augusti 2014 - 00:15

Any tips for hotels etc for us travelling from afar? ;)



#18 vizier87

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Postad 20 augusti 2014 - 11:33

Hotel anbefalinger er interessant... ser til nå ut som det er 5 lag som planlegger å stille fra Norge.



#19 rusty

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Postad 20 augusti 2014 - 22:00

BSK 32 har följande deltagaravgifter:

 

Föranmälan – Deltagaravgift

250:- /person*

 

 

 

 

Det står hvor mye som skal betales her:

http://bsk.sverok.ne...biljettkostnad/

 

 

Jeg finner ikke hvordan vi skal betale. Når kommer det?



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Postad 21 augusti 2014 - 06:50

Räknas buildings som impassable terrain precis som på ETC?




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