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#41 adamljung

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Postad 27 juli 2008 - 00:22

I'd not go as far as to say frenzy units are useles, they still have their uses but with a MAJOR drawback. (I'd love your idea on how to play with frenzy, then I'd go back to my "roots" and get a khorne beast army again smile.gif)

Of course, 2pt is kind of much when you think about it. [/Ironic mode]

I think there's to much stupid rules in this gaming system to start adjusting them and "country-faq" them going AGAINST what GW says (tho a country-faq clearing up rules issues with no clear answer I'm all for), I mean, what should you change and not? Everyone have their oppinion about that, and you can't please everyone.



#42 Niklas Asp

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Postad 27 juli 2008 - 08:09

koon, lucky this isnt a game of logic, but a game of fantasy. wink.gif
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#43 koon

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Postad 27 juli 2008 - 09:44

QUOTE (adamljung @ Jul 27 2008, 01:22 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think there's to much stupid rules in this gaming system to start adjusting them and "country-faq" them going AGAINST what GW says (tho a country-faq clearing up rules issues with no clear answer I'm all for), I mean, what should you change and not? Everyone have their oppinion about that, and you can't please everyone.

Exactly my feelings.

That's why I'm fine with the ruling as long as all stupid GW faqs are used.

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#44 Mag-El

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Postad 27 juli 2008 - 11:38

Ger BSB i en enhet med US över 4(som i sig själv inte har Standard) möjligheten att ta objektiv?

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#45 Dwarrgen

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Postad 27 juli 2008 - 17:41

QUOTE (Mag-El @ Jul 27 2008, 12:38 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ger BSB i en enhet med US över 4(som i sig själv inte har Standard) möjligheten att ta objektiv?

//Magnus


Nej. Endast "vanliga" enhetsstandards kan ta objektiv.

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#46 koon

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Postad 27 juli 2008 - 22:30

Do You need to tell Your opponent what Vampire Powers Your characters have?

(We usually do in Denmark)

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#47 petrus

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 10:49

QUOTE (koon @ Jul 27 2008, 23:30 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do You need to tell Your opponent what Vampire Powers Your characters have?

(We usually do in Denmark)

Kim



you do, how come?
Think i could trick the danish ETC team do to the same? ;-)

#48 koon

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 11:48

QUOTE (petrus @ Jul 28 2008, 11:49 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you do, how come?

Because it is not something out of the magic allowance. And everything not out of the magic allowance is usually open.
Like marks, spawnings etc.

At least that is the normal concensus I think. I didn't agree on this, but VC is too strong anyway and would be a lot better without revealing powers.
Heck I'd have made a different list if I knew I wouldn't have to reveal powers

QUOTE (petrus @ Jul 28 2008, 11:49 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think i could trick the danish ETC team do to the same? ;-)

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 13:35

QUOTE (koon @ Jul 28 2008, 12:48 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because it is not something out of the magic allowance. And everything not out of the magic allowance is usually open.
Like marks, spawnings etc.

At least that is the normal concensus I think. I didn't agree on this, but VC is too strong anyway and would be a lot better without revealing powers.
Heck I'd have made a different list if I knew I wouldn't have to reveal powers
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Hmm i see your point, you should wait untill the DE book been used for a few tournaments and then try your arguments again.
Those assassins are really nasty against the vamps.
our of curiosity, what changes would you make?
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#50 koon

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 13:53

I assume, that You have to at least tell if You have Avatar or Dreadknight?

That is mundane equipment and can hardly be hidden.

QUOTE (petrus @ Jul 28 2008, 14:35 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm i see your point, you should wait untill the DE book been used for a few tournaments and then try your arguments again.
Those assassins are really nasty against the vamps.
our of curiosity, what changes would you make?
Im not going to Sydcon so if you send me a pm ill not ruin the suprice smile.gif

I'm going to play those DE thumb.gif

The assassins will make the ring the most favoured item. And making the caster lords even more common.

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#51 petrus

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 14:18

QUOTE (koon @ Jul 28 2008, 14:53 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I assume, that You have to at least tell if You have Avatar or Dreadknight?

That is mundane equipment and can hardly be hidden.
I'm going to play those DE thumb.gif

The assassins will make the ring the most favoured item. And making the caster lords even more common.

Kim



We and ETC usually play it that people have to tell what mundane items the vampire have and that can be quite telling regarding dreadknight and avatar.
But no we dont force people to reveal those either.
I agree on the casterlord issue, the combat variant is risky as it is now and it would suprice me if the new HoC doesnt provide a couple of HtH monsters that will make the poor vamps run for cover.

#52 koon

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 15:20

QUOTE (petrus @ Jul 28 2008, 15:18 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We and ETC usually play it that people have to tell what mundane items the vampire have and that can be quite telling regarding dreadknight and avatar.
But no we dont force people to reveal those either.
I agree on the casterlord issue, the combat variant is risky as it is now and it would suprice me if the new HoC doesnt provide a couple of HtH monsters that will make the poor vamps run for cover.

But it can also be quite misleading, since Vamps can take armour without the mundane equivalent.
Would You tell if the vamp have an armour, but only a magic one?

The Combatlords can be quite effective, even with the ring. So I wouldn't quite disregard them.

But the casterlord backed by some killy vamps/kings is the most secure build.

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#53 petrus

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 15:37

Yea if a armour is a magical heavy armour i would tell my opponent that my vamp has a heavy armour.
This becomes tricky when
1) It doesnt really say what kind of armour the magical one is (like flayed haubek, if im not misstaken)
2) What if for example the magical weapon is clearly a mace, but funktions like a handweapon (bar the magical effekts ofcourse) what will you then tell your opponent?

Ill agree to that fighter lords are still viable just more risky, i saw your builds in the other thread and they looked solid.
But we both know that its secure and stable is whats wins tournaments

#54 Nylle

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Postad 28 juli 2008 - 17:32

QUOTE (koon @ Jul 27 2008, 23:30 ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do You need to tell Your opponent what Vampire Powers Your characters have?

(We usually do in Denmark)

Kim



Du behöver inte säga vad du har för vampire powers, dock finns det två undantag. Avatar of death och dread knight, dessa måste man presentera.




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